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	<title>Comments on: Violence and Vandalism are Not Solutions</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2008/07/16/violence-and-vandalism-are-not-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-4099</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Shiva,

While I do very much appreciate the left-anarchist critique of private (land) property and rent within the context of what we have today, I completely reject the notion you put forward here, or to which at least I believe you refer.

At the risk of offering the personal example, I used to own three houses in the US, while renting space in a fourth. Those I did not live in, I rented to tenants. In each case, we contracted for the rent and conditions of tenancy. Would there at any time arisen a situation in which my tenants would have been morally justified in expropriating my property? Perhaps, but such never occurred. I didn&#039;t inherit what tenuous and ephemeral wealth I had, but my situation then was such that I was able to control a few bits of land and make a very small profit thereby.

Are there very very many claims of property today existing which are unjust and which should be rightly dissolved? Certainly. Were my claims such? Well, you&#039;d have been welcome to argue that with me, but you can be equally certain that had you attempted to escalate from argument to action I would have met you with every force at my disposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Shiva,</p>
<p>While I do very much appreciate the left-anarchist critique of private (land) property and rent within the context of what we have today, I completely reject the notion you put forward here, or to which at least I believe you refer.</p>
<p>At the risk of offering the personal example, I used to own three houses in the US, while renting space in a fourth. Those I did not live in, I rented to tenants. In each case, we contracted for the rent and conditions of tenancy. Would there at any time arisen a situation in which my tenants would have been morally justified in expropriating my property? Perhaps, but such never occurred. I didn&#8217;t inherit what tenuous and ephemeral wealth I had, but my situation then was such that I was able to control a few bits of land and make a very small profit thereby.</p>
<p>Are there very very many claims of property today existing which are unjust and which should be rightly dissolved? Certainly. Were my claims such? Well, you&#8217;d have been welcome to argue that with me, but you can be equally certain that had you attempted to escalate from argument to action I would have met you with every force at my disposal.</p>
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		<title>By: shiva</title>
		<link>http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2008/07/16/violence-and-vandalism-are-not-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-4098</link>
		<dc:creator>shiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what if you believe that the only valid &quot;ownership&quot; of a house is living in it, and therefore that no one has the right to evict anyone?

Rentiers are parasites and oppressors just as much as government is. Rent is extortion with threats of violence just as much as tax is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what if you believe that the only valid &#8220;ownership&#8221; of a house is living in it, and therefore that no one has the right to evict anyone?</p>
<p>Rentiers are parasites and oppressors just as much as government is. Rent is extortion with threats of violence just as much as tax is.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2008/07/16/violence-and-vandalism-are-not-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-4076</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately what little digging on this I did didn&#039;t turn up any information on the actual construction site. The original post said that people were &quot;evicted&quot;. That does not necessarily mean that the evictions were carried out relative to an eminent domain seizure, as private property owners are likewise entitled to evict (contractually) their tenants in order to improve their property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately what little digging on this I did didn&#8217;t turn up any information on the actual construction site. The original post said that people were &#8220;evicted&#8221;. That does not necessarily mean that the evictions were carried out relative to an eminent domain seizure, as private property owners are likewise entitled to evict (contractually) their tenants in order to improve their property.</p>
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