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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Not Voluntary, and It&#8217;s Not a Contract</title>
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		<title>By: no third solution &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Property Taxes are NOT &#8220;Rent&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.nothirdsolution.com/2008/07/21/its-not-voluntary-and-its-not-a-contract/comment-page-1/#comment-4714</link>
		<dc:creator>no third solution &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Property Taxes are NOT &#8220;Rent&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] let&#8217;s think of it as rent A non-negotiable rent. Backed by the &#8220;social contract, so-called, a complete fiction which no man ever accepted because it was never lawfully offered, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] let&#8217;s think of it as rent A non-negotiable rent. Backed by the &#8220;social contract, so-called, a complete fiction which no man ever accepted because it was never lawfully offered, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Francois Tremblay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francois Tremblay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My answer would have been

"I don't know who you're trying to fool, midwesterner, me or yourself, but you're no Anarchist. And you are insane if you believe that a piece of paper protects you from anything."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My answer would have been</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know who you&#8217;re trying to fool, midwesterner, me or yourself, but you&#8217;re no Anarchist. And you are insane if you believe that a piece of paper protects you from anything.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: csun</title>
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		<dc:creator>csun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rent my property by the year from my county government and each year the rent goes up without any input from me.
If I refuse to "opt out" by not paying my rent i.e property tax,I will be kicked off my land and it will be sold on the courthouse square to the highest bidder.
It makes absolutely no difference whether I can afford the rent or not, if I don't pay I will get the boot from the benevolent overlord.
We are all serfs renting our freedom by the year from a collectivist government.
We can never own property free and clear of the threat of seizure by a fiscally irresponsible and corrupt government.
On the right we've brain dead denizens proclaiming"support the troops" and on the left we've doubly indifferent morons screaming "Bush lied , people died." 
The show goes on and the rent is always due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rent my property by the year from my county government and each year the rent goes up without any input from me.<br />
If I refuse to &#8220;opt out&#8221; by not paying my rent i.e property tax,I will be kicked off my land and it will be sold on the courthouse square to the highest bidder.<br />
It makes absolutely no difference whether I can afford the rent or not, if I don&#8217;t pay I will get the boot from the benevolent overlord.<br />
We are all serfs renting our freedom by the year from a collectivist government.<br />
We can never own property free and clear of the threat of seizure by a fiscally irresponsible and corrupt government.<br />
On the right we&#8217;ve brain dead denizens proclaiming&#8221;support the troops&#8221; and on the left we&#8217;ve doubly indifferent morons screaming &#8220;Bush lied , people died.&#8221;<br />
The show goes on and the rent is always due.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the constitutional social contract idea is so popular is a bit beyond me. It's &lt;i&gt;obviously&lt;/i&gt; a fraud. The cleverer argumenters in support of it will sweep aside the word "contract" as sophistry, and say that what's meant here is something more fundamental, a "higher" sort of contract, and then come up with all sorts of justifications to "prove" that you assented to it.

If they can do so &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; reading Spooner, though, my benefit of the doubt evaporates and I have to conclude they're either insane, evil, stupid or some combination thereof.

As for the "get the fuck out" bit, heh, I've done that. Not because subjecting myself to a lesser evil is in any way good in absolute terms, but because withdrawing support for the peak efflorescence of evil to me is better in relative terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the constitutional social contract idea is so popular is a bit beyond me. It&#8217;s <i>obviously</i> a fraud. The cleverer argumenters in support of it will sweep aside the word &#8220;contract&#8221; as sophistry, and say that what&#8217;s meant here is something more fundamental, a &#8220;higher&#8221; sort of contract, and then come up with all sorts of justifications to &#8220;prove&#8221; that you assented to it.</p>
<p>If they can do so <i>after</i> reading Spooner, though, my benefit of the doubt evaporates and I have to conclude they&#8217;re either insane, evil, stupid or some combination thereof.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;get the fuck out&#8221; bit, heh, I&#8217;ve done that. Not because subjecting myself to a lesser evil is in any way good in absolute terms, but because withdrawing support for the peak efflorescence of evil to me is better in relative terms.</p>
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